H- how do you navigate the client dynamic of emphasizing the, the importance o- of these matters, and then interfacing with the client on the discovery process when we have this regulatory overlay, especially in the healthcare industry?

Well, [laughs] your, your, your experience is similar to my experience.

The ...

If you want to put your client to sleep, talk about discovery protocols, and I think that, that usually is gonna do the trick.

So, uh, you know, there's ...

It, it depends on a lot of things.

It depends on, you know, the sophistication of the client and, and how often they're dealing with these things.

Charles, I don't know if you can give us an example of where that regulation of business structure in particular crops up or plays out in the course of litigation involving healthcare.