But so, I mean, what was a part, how did that, I guess, what was a part of your decision making process there? How did you think about that?

yes so that's a great question i saw coming into undergrad i didn't know that this existed but by the time of sort of taking classes and realizing i wanted to switch then i saw okay yeah there is a ton of people here this is a really great place to do astronomy yeah and so i had a sort of interesting path because the first time i applied to graduate schools i didn't get in anywhere and so i actually did it twice through the cycle so i ended up spending an extra year at the cfa doing research there.

So I definitely was well immersed in the environment.

So I went across the street, there's two buildings.

I went across the street and I worked with the folks that did radio astronomy for that year and then reapplied to graduate school.

And then it was on the second time that I applied, I was admitted and decided to stay.

And that was also a bit fortuitous too, because as a senior and undergraduate, the astronomy department often did these fun field trips in the summer leading up to your senior year.

Then what I'll do is I'll ask you this final question, which is, in your opinion, why should we care about astrophysics?