What drove you to go to Africa?

I mean, just to give the background to that, I have to say, my father died in 1988.

He was very late marrying.

He was 82 when I was like 28.

And that's when he died at that age.

And he left me some money.

I was finding the market garden in my late 20s actually quite a slog for not earning a huge amount.

Yeah.