Mm.

So finding that.

And then I, I will just say for the people that are really experiencing some hard things in their life or emotional things, part of finding God for me was with my husband's battle of cancer and losing my husband.

Like, I, I really had to pour out to the Lord each day.

And so I have found that Harvard calls this expressive writing, 10 minutes, p- a pen on paper.

But just pouring out with- without filtering, like, "This is what is on my heart today," I found that then God could pour in.

Like, that's sometimes...

Mm-hmm