So Chappell Roan told Elton about how she finds ways to be positive in the face of so much negativity and divisiveness.

It is kind of disheartening sometimes to really go into the comment section, so I currently don't have social media on my phone, and I think that I just delete it when it becomes too much and keep it moving, to just keep doing the work, show up.

Because at the end of the day, no matter what anyone says about me online or in person, it's not gonna stop people like Elton and I donating money, donating time, writing about things that matter to us, saying, you know.

There is a lot of negativity, but there is so many people thatDo stand up for me and Elton.

I think that it's really, really hard as an artist right now in this day and age to try to separate social media and your job and being a good person because, like, it all is kind of wrapped up in numbers and comments.

So it's such a difficult world to navigate that personally, if I just delete it and keep it moving, I kind of make it out of that hurricane.

But that's hard for a lot of artists because if you really rely on social media to fuel, you know, your momentum, that, that can be really disheartening and kind of, you- it can feel very hopeless.

We're doing our message to make sure that their effort and their bravery is not forgotten.

I thought it was brilliant.

Thank you.

I would say, like, it's easy when it's true and when it's honest and it's real.

It's easy to make it part of everything you do because it's genuine.

And if I didn't feel so strongly, or I didn't identify [laughs] and I felt like I was kind of being an imposter, I don't know how I would be able to make it such a part of my project and my lifestyle.

I think that for me it's kind of impossible to not have it a part of my project.

It's become so apparent that one of the biggest priorities is, like, to make an impact because it- it just makes so much sense for me personally and, like, the whole Chappell Roan project.

It's the people that came before us that fought for our cause, that ended up by getting AIDS and dying or being killed in a nightclub or, or a hate crime, uh, we're doing our message to make sure that their effort and their bravery is not forgotten.

Right.

... and not, like, the art.

And so that's what hurts my feelings 'cause it's like, when my art even, you know, like with The Giver, you are 100% allowed to judge it, hate it, love it, rip it apart, critique it.

Like, that is the point.

Like, I think the fairies are your muse.

I usually, I would say yes, fairies visit me.

But I think like the way I write now is from like, I take things that are really fucked up and then make it really like...

I don't know, like it's the same with like The Subway.

(laughs)

... that's the vibe.

That's the vibes of that.

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Here's the thing I have always gone back and forth with when I'm in the mood to work out and when I'm not.

And I feel like that's a very common experience, right? Sometimes we're feeling motivated, sometimes we're not.

But the more we move, the more we feel alive.

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