And what happened until you were 15? Was it so hard?

what happened well i think what happened for me is that i grew up in a very very from home and it was very strict and there wasn't a lot of like love so the attitude of yiddishkeit and towards judaism in general it wasn't coming from a place of like oh we love being from it was more like We're doing this because we have to do this.

And like, this is just what we do.

And so I didn't really have the love for it.

I was practicing more.

Well, as a little kid, I did.

But then as I got older and the rules were so strict, I was like, this is not fun.

Oh,