Has being president changed your perspective on Visita as a global association, which I guess is a unique association, right? In the way it operates and its membership, your perspective on the association or its membership in any way, and maybe give some examples of how.

What's become very clear to me is that I have to constantly think about Visita's value proposition.

Before becoming president, I may took it for granted, but now I'm constantly asking what real value are we delivering to our members? I mean, why should they invest their time and resources in Visita? In the time of economic and technical uncertainty like we are facing now, having a neutral, member-led community where leaders can have open, honest peer conversations is more valuable than ever.

And that's precisely why we have to stay innovative, remain relevant, and stay with relentless focus, understanding.

what our members actually need and expect from Fujita.

And exactly, this is kind of, as I mentioned, you know, when we talk about global, I mean, they are all members in Fujita really have a business model in different regions and Fujita can become truly a good partner They're intelligent sources for being addressing, you know, the global diverse customers, what we need to focus on different regions and what's going on in different regions.

And Visita really connect all those information from different regions, European, Chinese.

What, when you look back, would a successful summit have looked like for you? Well,