Chance, how about

you, man? What were you digging into in your youth? Oh man, in my youth.

So yeah, it really goes back to, for me, I have a very, I just have a very vivid memory of music as, very much associated and attached to that vivid memory.

So my first memory of actually paying attention to music and becoming obsessed with music was around the age of four or five.

My dad had a buddy who left a box of cassette tapes over at his house.

And my parents divorced when I was young.

So Every now and again, when I'd be at my dad's house visiting, I'd be rummaging through these boxes of cassettes.

Yeah.

And he throws his timing at me and I'm like,

wow, this is interesting.

So we'll back up just a little bit, a little bit of an origin story into this, Rich, if that's all right.

So the way that Mike and I met was that our boiler took a shit on us during a very cold month.

And, and so we needed to get our heat back on and the company that we normally would call to come work on stuff, they were busy.

So we had to find another company.

That company ended up being the company that sent us Mike.

That is not even close to how it