Like where did, where did all that come from? Was that just from like education days? Is that kind of what your job titles were in some of those companies or...?

Well, I mean, I just think I've had a lot of experience.

Um, and I've, you know, pretty qui- like we talked about at the beginning, like I pretty quickly, you know, was in leadership positions.

I think I, I think I was a principal of a school when I was 29.

And so, um, you know, and so pretty much ever since then, I've been in some sort of leadership position.

And so I've just over the years accumulated what I'd like to think some pretty good knowledge and some pretty random stuff, um, either leading people or growing things.

And, and we, you know, and, and I've been lucky.

[laughs]

And so,

but like the point being is like, you know, I have a 22 and 19 year old.

Um, you have a ton of employees that lock in charge, you know, like, we can't have kids that are going, do you want kids that only write on paper that don't know how to do Slack and Claude code and cowork and all this stuff at your company? Hell no.

Hell no.

Right.

And so like something's got to give at some point because I, That doesn't make a lot of sense.

And so I guess the way I kind of look at it is there's a lot of companies out here that have amazing missions.

weird it's great but like the