Mm-hmm.

And I'm sitting across from one of my clients and I haven't slept for maybe two or three days.

My gut is a wreck.

Having been to Mysore first time when I was 20 years old, I picked up something and I never quite... was able to get rid of it.

I don't know if it was a parasite or whatever, but it worked its way through my system.

So he says to me, my client on the other line, he says, everything okay.

And it was clear that not everything was okay.

And so it seems foreign or selfish maybe to them in some ways.

[laughs]

If you're, if you're cool with it.

And, and, um, a- and I think l- like you...

So I, I lost my brother to suicide when I was, uh, 17, almost 18 years old.

It was my, uh, first week at college, and, um, my brother tragically jumped off the Golden Gate Bridge.

And he had mental illness, and, um, it was only diagnosed near the end.

And so to make a long story short, yoga was a, uh...

Mm.

What are you gonna do with that?

I think my parents...

I think what happened for my parents was that having lost their first son, that changed things.

That that sort of...

You know, my grandfather was the patriarch of the family, and he was on one level very loving.

I loved my grandfather dearly, and yet he had a very clear definition of what life was.

Having come out of the Depression, "There are only two types of people in the world," he used to say.

You moved on to the, the life, kind of the life coaching.