How did you get into being able to know the ins and outs of not only dogs, but animals in general?

It all goes back to Mexico, right? Because in Mexico, you grew up in a more natural lifestyle, right? It's that connection with Mother Nature, you know, the understanding of El Dia de los Muertos, the Day of the Death.

Because, you know, living with an animal, you have to understand that it's life, you know, birth, life, and death.

And so you have to understand those three facets of life.

So I grew up, you know, understanding that an animal is born, an animal live and an animal die.

Right.

And that gave me that profoundness of having a very healthy relationship with a dog, but in a very quiet way.

What is a life of greatness to you?

Hmm.

'Cause people have learned to love an excited dog, an anxious dog, uh, a dog that, uh, that ha- that was a victim, right? So if you rescue a dog, and then that dog was in a bad situation, that person goes and rescue a dog because he feels bad.

And then, uh, that same person start telling everybody in the family what happened to that dog.

So now the whole entire family feels bad for the dog.

So when they describe the dog, they describe the past.

So they learn to love the past, 'cause they feel sorry for this dog.

So the dog now is fearful, controlling the house, you know, has... [laughs] Doesn't listen to the humans.

This doesn't seem like a good thing.

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If we think of, think of spirit, think about silence.

Do you like silence? Okay, silence is part of the spiritual world.

And what about calmness? Calmness, I think I'm calm.

Okay, let's breathe.

And then I changed the instinctual world just by just breathing, right? And then I started giving the information so the intellectual world is more simple.

It's more clear with the nose, eyes, ears.

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Like, who's this person? Like, what are they about? Like, what moves them forward or back? Are they a good person or a bad person? Are they scared? I think it's very helpful if people learn to tap into this a little bit.

You know, when I go to people's home, the human tells you the story and the dog tells you the truth.

Just by you looking at them.

That's it.

The dog immediately tells, this is the energy we feel, this is the philosophy we practice, and this is the actions we do.

Immediately.

The dog always, he's the most honest member of your house.

How do you recommend, young or old, that people start to cultivate this awareness and this?

Well, how did you develop this? your skills, was it all learned? Or was it all trial and error? Or did you read books? Or did you go to a school? Or was it just like, I'm just going off of pure instinct?

Yeah, pure instinct, definitely instinct, because I'm working with a pack of dogs.

So I'm the first human being that talks about the pack, and how to rehabilitate dogs by using the pack.

And this is dogs that are not mine.

This is dogs that belong to other people.

Right.

And so I'm putting dogs who are now mine, put them back into the pack and then bring in another dog that has a problem, behavioral problem.

So the

What's, what's behind our deep, deep, deep connection to dogs?

Adaptation.

The, we're the only two species that you can find all over the world, you know.

So no matter where you are in the world, those are the two species that will survive, right? So adaptation is number one, because without life, there's no relationship.

And so then eventually is a relationship.

But, but the first thing is the adaptation.

We are so capable to adapt to the snow, to the sun, to the, to the, uh, you know, to this, to the jungle.

For sure.

You know, how do you, how do you respond to that kind of criticism?

Well, obviously they don't understand the whole energy philosophy.

They're focusing on one part of what I do.

They're not paying attention to the whole thing that I'm doing.

So they're just going after w- of their belief system, what they would do.

They don't put dogs together.

They don't packs together.

Cesar, could you tell me about your dog, Daddy?