I think it's a great, very humbling environment.

Oh, wow.

I know.

Oxford is great at that.

It's not good at, and this is going to sound completely hypocritical from what I've just said, at connecting people.

I think I am a connector and I love connecting people.

So Oxford needs to do that a little bit more.

I think that people that like being in Oxford, for all of the reasons we've been discussing, I would just say have a bit of faith that you can fight for that if you want to stay.

I said, listen, I've come from the NHS.

I bet they thought, oh my God, who have we got here? But they sat me in front of a med device company and I was on a roll.

That was amazing.

That was fantastic.

But it was fascinating learning about the different companies and how investment banking worked and how you value companies and how you help companies.

So that began my career in investment banking.

And 20 years later, here I am.

How do you see that in the current system? Do