God.

I said, oh no, what have I done? And I thought, I've got to go through with this now.

And I never ever told anyone what I was going to do because no one ever knew about Hugh being ill because it was COVID and it was a lockdown.

So we spent six months on our own.

We literally, he started chemo on the second day, the first day of the second lockdown.

So we hid away from everyone and we never told anyone he was ill at the time.

and it was only when he came out in April and he rang the bell that I felt comfortable about telling people that it was ill, because I knew that he was on the track, or I thought he was on the right track.

With Hughes Law then, for the people that are listening, what is the law and how has it changed and what has been the impact since?

Tell me about your charity.

Well, when people go through trage- tragedy, you sink or swim.

You can decide that you're gonna fight back and give back to those people that suffer the same as you, or you can decide that you wanna float away.

Neither was gonna bring Hugh home, and so we decided, our words at the time, be more like Hugh.

He fought everything with positivity and kindness and courage.

And so my wife and I decided to give ourselves a purpose, to give back to those parents that we witnessed and who are still going through that journey.

And I said after I buried Hugh, and I carried his coffin through the church, I said, "No parent should do this." And un- and sadly, they still will do this.

Yeah