Talk me through that, actually.

I think it's funny because you asked the question and it makes me take myself back to what it was like then.

And I think we started back then or I started back then just being a jack of all trades, learn it, go on YouTube, get it done.

I'm a hospitality girl from background.

So things are important to get it right the first time.

Trial and error.

And then it was almost like everyone in the business could be a jack of all trades.

overwhelmed with work