You are a mum of two beautiful teenage boys, but what was it like when you were navigating motherhood and travelling for getaway at the same time, when they were babies, when they were first born? How did you handle all of that? It was

very difficult.

The first challenge when you are in a job that thousands of people want is, will I kill my career by choosing to have children? Mm-hmm.

And I just had to have a very open conversation with my boss, and I was very fortunate that my boss, John Walsh, at the time said, look, as long as you can get to an airport, I don't care where you live, and we will make this work.

He initially said...

Take the baby with you.

And my crew were beautiful and amazing.

you know, as

Now that we're talking about connecting with horses, but with people, what do you find is this common bond that you sort of can connect with people as you're traveling around the world? Is there a theme where people are actually quite the same, no matter where you are?

That's the beautiful part of traveling is that it confirms we all dance to the same beat.

Whether you are living in an African village or in a high rise, we all have familial relationships.

I remember being in South Africa and I was having a whinge about one of my sisters and the guide was going, oh my God, you sound exactly like my wife.

My wife is going through the exact same thing.

You're whinging about the exact same things.

And I just had to laugh to myself to think, isn't that funny? We're all the same.

Can I ask you, look, I was watching one of your shows just in sort of in preparation for today and it was an older show, but I was quite interested in it because you went to the North Pole and you went to Santa's house.