Would you be willing to give us some insight into this part of your life?

Yeah, sure.

So, yeah, at that time, it was a very, very long time ago, but I was – got caught up, got in an entanglement with a relationship where – I didn't know that much about this person, but there was a lot of what I now understand as love bombing pretty early on in the relationship.

And I guess my sense of self and my self-worth was pretty low at that time.

And so even though my intuition was initially speaking to me early on in those first dates, in those first moments, I kind of.

actively overrode those intuitive knowings and was like, oh no, you know, I'll give this person the benefit of the doubt.

And I know it's kind of nice.

What are, I mean, how would you express your own spiritual beliefs? Or is that, are there no words for it?

Mom Kathy also stepped up to the mic with a raw and emotional plea.

I just want Mr. Zelig to come home.

[crying] He, he, he all I got.

He all I got.

He all I got.