But I guess as a starter, I'm curious as to what sparked your passion for networking.

Thank you for having me, Anthony.

I should start off with that.

It's a pleasure to be here.

Yeah, what sparked my love of networking really was joining a networking group.

And it was over 20 plus years ago, nearer 30 to be truthful.

But yeah, I went along to a networking group.

How do you foster that within your individual groups or any general tips on, because that's something quite special where everybody is, we can get behind a charity, of course, but in terms of generally wanting to help each other out.