So yeah, what was your journey into the work that you're currently doing? Where did you really, where did you start out this path?

Oh, man, that's a big question.

Yeah, I suppose like with any journey is like there's so many there's been so many like threads in this in this journey, I guess.

Yeah, I suppose.

Yeah.

Both my parents work in the mental health field and I suppose growing up in that environment, being aware that there was need for this kind of care out there in the world from a very young age.

and seeing what it was like for my parents to go through that.

How do you see these kind of two worlds kind of merging at the moment?