Because it is.

So I often use...

I use a metaphor.

I like to tell stories, mainly because when I'm working with children, they don't need the neuroscience.

They don't need the legislation.

What they need is an understanding about what they're doing and what the risks might be.

So when I'm talking to parents, I say, OK, so we'll do this as a kind of experiment because people who are listening can play along.

So

But how worried should we be? What do you think is the worst case scenario here? And why did you develop the concept of cyber trauma?

So first of all, just to go back in terms of the...

And I do want to say, yes, I'm aware of that process that in Aircross allegedly takes place in China because they deny that they ever do anything so kind of life-threatening in that way.

I tend to default to everybody and say Charlie Brooker was way ahead of the game with his Black Mirror on this.

But the reason...

So there's a really simple reason why my cyber trauma theory and the position that I'm in exists.

And I often say to people, I had a tech safe castle.

So how can people become more vigilant without becoming kind of neurotic like myself?