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Catherine Cliff

Oct 5, 2026

36:29
[laughs]
36:30
She's not in Emma.
36:31
Um, and in Austen's Emma, we don't know if Isabel, her sister, is her half-sister or not.
36:37
But, um, that these are, um, innovations on my part.
36:41
Um, she gives her daughter the advice, um, to no matter what you receive, to give a lot of thanks for it and be really grateful for it.
36:50
And I think a lot of parents have given their kids that advice, like, you know they're going some place where they might get a present from a grandmother or something they don't like, and you've given them the, the advice to be, um, false and to say, "I love it." Um, and in her world, it's actually a matter of life and death that people give her things.
37:09
Like, as she gets older and her downward mobility, uh, ratchets up, and faster and faster down the hill she goes, she really needs people to want to give her things.
37:28
Mm

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