So what are some of the most effective strategies that we're seeing right now in terms of working against messaging and voice fraud that makes them successful?

Yeah, sure.

So first of all, building on what Nima mentioned, I think the challenge here is really that we're shifting from a world that we knew how to, you know, fight fraud in, you know, SMS based on, you know, content inspection and looking into the messages and stuff like that.

Voice firewalls and, you know, voice technologies have existed forever.

Now we're shifting into a more fragmented world and end-to-end encryption is the problem.

We have end-to-end encryption on P2P RCS, we have end-to-end encryption on many of the OTT channels, so this is making it much more difficult to detect fraud in the same way that we've been used to.

In terms of what's effective, I think it goes down to more data sharing.

So I'm not putting you on the spot, Katalin, but maybe, you know, what are those challenges? Like, why are we having such a hard time