the next step? Yeah.

Yeah.

So when I, um, I was in college, and I was looking for a part-time commis chef position at the time, and it was really hard for me as a commis to get a job.

Because everybody, every restaurant or every place looks for a commis with experience, and I was a commis with no experience, and they weren't willing to give me experience to get experience.

And I found it completely mind-blowing, because I'm so passionate and willing and I, I said I, I would be like a sponge.

You know, I would absorb every information that you give me, and I will do the best ability of it as I can and be curious and ask questions and make mistakes, but learn from them.

But it was really hard to secure a position that would allow that for me, and I fell really luckily into Virgin's hands, and they...

Is, are you at liberty to share the toughest moment in the competition when you kind of maybe thought, "Wow, I don't know that I can get there"?