Can you tell me a little bit about, do you have a routine for your creative work? I

think, I was very interested to do this podcast because I think a lot about creativity, and even though I've just introduced myself as a writer, which is very fun, I feel like my creative work is something that I have to have in my life every single day, something creative, making something from nothing, just in terms of my version of living a full and happy life.

So I can get quite...

I can catch myself feeling a little bit low or a little bit down.

And I think usually that's because I'm consuming more than I'm creating.

It's usually a little alarm bell to me that I have to make something.

And whether that's, you know, knitting, whether that's drawing with my son, whether that's, you know, mucking around with a bit of craft or whether that is writing.

that.