How do you handle unexpected issues or changes during operations?

You can only be trained so much on how to handle anomalies during training.

We have things we call simulations or sims where we train, go through like take a timeline for a day and go through different scenarios like, oh, how would you react to this happening or that happening? But there have been so many times on console where it's like things nobody would have expected.

Or one thing we have to keep in mind on the science side is some of these payloads are brand spanking new.

Brand new hardware, brand new payload developers.

Sometimes things happen that nobody was expecting.

So it's working with your team, working with your payload developer, whoever, to be like, okay, here's what's happened.

I think you were had just graduated or were you in Pathways in 2013?