Wow

... getting kind of picked up and, and, and kind of looking at all these millions of, of faders and knobs on this, you know, giant mixing desk that everybody had back in those days.

Um, and kind of hearing, hearing songs and, and, and understanding that, you know, when they-... pull these dials down, these faders down, you know, bits of the song will disappear.

And, you know, and they push, push these ones up, other bits will, will come in.

Mm-hmm.

And sort of being exposed to, to the professional workings of, uh, of the music industry.

And so, um, so those two cousins, they are professional, uh, songwriters, producers, label owners.

Mm-hmm