Um, what was, how did the idea come up? So what was the mastermind behind Duncan?

The mastermind? Well, that's the man right there we're going to talk about.

The genius, the genius to the brand or the brands I should say.

So, um, yeah, in 2002, um, So I think Dunks is around at the same age as me, which I was sort of thinking the other day.

So as a national swimmer and also he was a lifeguard as well.

So as he's pondering up on his big little stool, I guess, overlooking to make sure he could save someone, he realized how plain the actual swimwear was.

And he remembered of how his old man was actually saying, well, back in my day, as they all say back in my day, um, togs used to be really bright and colorful.

as well what is the best thing about working for funky um