Right.

Uh, I think this is, you know, uh, him...

For anybody that's, uh, that's a literature fan, I think the, the most interesting characters are ones who are contradictions because we as humans don't behave how we're supposed to based on what we profess to believe.

Yeah, I mean, before Schopenhauer, um, Wagner was very much into this direction of the hero's journey, uh, and this kind of resolution that the hero goes through trials and tribulations and ends up winning.

He's in the middle of writing Siegfried and comes into contact with Schopenhauer.

Uh, also the Upanishads indirectly.

Th- things like this, very, very Eastern thought.

Yeah