He tells us how the club have evolved from that cliché, although a certain economic reality still exists.

I will answer your first question because of course we, at some point we need to sell the players because we still need to close the gap between the revenues and the expenses we do have by selling some players.

But our target is to postpone this moment as long as possible.

Maybe in previous, uh, seasons, we just keep the players playing for us one or two seasons, and now we want to keep them playing as long as possible.

Just 10 years ago, the best players moved from Dortmund to Bayern.

Now the best players do not move in Bundesliga anymore, but they move, like you mentioned, Jude to Real or like Erling to, uh, Manchester City or like Dembélé to Barcelona.

So our top flights are just moving forward to the European top flights, which shows some progress because in former decades our biggest n- n- national rival took our best players.

Yeah.