It's all outside of the camp somewhere else is where you learn this kind of stuff.

Well, I think that's true for so much around our body and our health.

When we have, we talk to hundreds and hundreds of women every month and they come to us defeated, confused, frustrated, angry at their bodies, feeling like they're doing everything right.

They're doing the things like eat less, move more, count your calories and struggling.

Keep thinking, I just need to lose weight.

I need to lose weight.

And I keep saying that forever.

It is the belief systems that direct all of our...

Those words would never come out of my mouth.

Well, that's because you look great is code for you look smaller.

It's the, it's, that's just the accepted code.

And when I actually, so when I started my journey and I lost the weight and I got to my quote unquote goal weight, which I Absolutely disdain that word.

I think it's absolutely out of control because there's an insinuation like we can control that number.

I want to be at my optimal health and my body will then be at its optimal weight.

I don't know what that number is.

or fourth why, it gets down to self-worth.

Those words would never come out of my mouth.

Well, that's because you look great is code for you look smaller.

It's the, it's, that's just the accepted code.

And when I actually, so when I started my journey and I lost the weight and I got to my quote unquote goal weight, which I Absolutely disdain that word.

I think it's absolutely out of control because there's an insinuation like we can control that number.

I want to be at my optimal health and my body will then be at its optimal weight.

I don't know what that number is.

the time you get to the third or fourth why, it gets down to self-worth.

Those words would never come out of my

mouth.

Well, that's because you look great is code for you look smaller.

It's the, it's, that's just the accepted code.

And when I actually, so when I started my journey and I lost the weight and I got to my quote unquote goal weight, which I Absolutely disdain that word.

I think it's absolutely out of control because there's an insinuation like we can control that number.

I want to be at my optimal health and my body will then be at its optimal weight.

um right and but it's because I want to it's not because if I don't go I first of all I don't even know where a scale is in this house I don't get on it I never do it's how do my clothes look how do my clothes feel but more than that like what are my numbers what do I look like and I don't I don't do all the numbers I don't do all the numbers but right

Those words would never come out of my

mouth.

Well, that's because you look great is code for you look smaller.

It's the, it's, that's just the accepted code.

And when I actually, so when I started my journey and I lost the weight and I got to my quote unquote goal weight, which I Absolutely disdain that word.

I think it's absolutely out of control because there's an insinuation like we can control that number.

I want to be at my optimal health and my body will then be at its optimal weight.

um right and but it's because I want to it's not because if I don't go I first of all I don't even know where a scale is in this house I don't get on it I never do it's how do my clothes look how do my clothes feel but more than that like what are my numbers what do I look like and I don't I don't do all the numbers I don't do all the numbers but right

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It's by someone we love, who's wearing it themselves, that they don't even realize that they're wearing it.

And what we're doing is we've had this corset on us for so long, this, this lie that feels very true, that we have to look a certain way, we have to have a certain amount of money, we have to have a certain amount of success.

When we become a mom, we have to sacrifice ourselves in order to be worthy.

And I say all the time, a baby was born worthy.

Th- that baby did not have to do a single thing.

They poop, they cry, they're a lot of work, and they are priceless.

Right.

And so can you take us through how you got there and what that looks like?

Well, I think the first thing we have to do is really define what we mean by working.

And this is what I think so many people focus on.

We see it everywhere.

I was just driving from the airport yesterday at home, and I saw billboard after billboard after billboard on weight loss surgery, weight loss drugs, and medical weight loss.

And it was all...

Weight loss, weight loss, weight loss, weight loss.

Because you don't want to give your kids disordered eating or...

So when did you realize that this is just not working for us?

Yeah, well, when, I mean, I, in college, I didn't eat the pizza when everybody ate pizza because eating pizza made me fat.

And if I was fat, I had no value.

And that was really, I was actually just talking to my mother last night about this because I have a book coming out called From Corset to Crown.

And this concept of all of us were put, men and women were given this corset.

It was put on them.

And I think it was around seven or eight.

yeah while at the same time having reasonable grace for ourselves because the diet industry would say okay if you skip the gym one day well you're a failure or you eat the brownie one day you're a failure you did it wrong you're never gonna do this so why does that restriction or deprivation or whatever people are trying to sell us why does that Yeah,

Of course it got put on her.

Yeah, yeah.

That's exactly what happened.

And that's what, but if we don't realize we're wearing it, and here's the thing, we make all of our decisions from the corset.

I've worked with tens of thousands of women now and really they come to me because they're like, Carrie, tell me how to eat.

I want to lose weight, all of this stuff.

But at the end of the day, what they're really looking for is a peace within themselves.

Well, and if

Yeah.

It just can't be the norm.

One of the things that you s- said about self-awareness is where I very much believe self-awareness is health.

That is the definition of health.

If we...

I have a whole chapter in my book called None of This Will Work.

None of what I'm about to teach you in this book is gonna work if you are not actually aware.

Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

And when I realized that our core foundation of our body is blood sugar stabilization, it's literally like our body's love language, I was like, well, how come I've never heard of that before? And what I've realized is that all the symptoms that any of us have, whether it's weight gain, stubborn weight loss, um, digestive issues, inflammation, um, fatigue, cravings, hormonal imbalances, all the way as we continue thinking through those kinds of symptoms up to high blood pressure, high cholesterol, heart disease, insulin resistance, PCOS, non-alcoholic fatty liver disease, pre-diabetes, diabetes, all of it can be attributed to cellular dysfunction, which is caused by-...

blood sugar dysregulation.

And we, we kind of know this, like innately.

We know that when our blood sugar's really low, we get super hangry, right? And we like crave like potato chips or bread and things like that.

And when our blood sugar's really high, I don't know that we always recognize when that happens, but our body is going through all sorts of havoc.

And every time we're spiking our blood sugar, we end up doing something called glycating, which is extra glucose in our system.

What are some healthy behaviors or some systems in terms of behaviors that the listener can implement or can even, um, revise in order to become that healthiest version?

Yeah.

That in order to have value, we had to look a certain way.

There's a lot of subliminal messages that have continued to this day, but started at a certain point, and we started to believe that.

And that's when the corset came on us.

And we were taught, like, the more, you know, you pull that corset and the tighter it is, the smaller you are, the more you shrink, both within your physical body and in your presence.

You know, don't be too loud.

Don't be too difficult.

Yeah.