Can you tell us a little bit more about that? how you engage or want to engage more with the built environment through your practice.

Like creating spaces, imagining spaces.

Yeah, I think the main thing as an artist is to be able to create an experience for the person that will watch the artwork, whether it's physical, emotional, intellectual, but at least I hope to start with an emotional reaction first.

And then when people can start learning more about the work or reading more about the work, they... understand all the sub layers that I've embedded into the research and the making of the work.

I don't believe an artwork is just a beautiful object.

Some people believe that, but me in my practice myself, I would rather make, yes, a beautiful object, but that carries a message and that can hopefully make a difference in a way or that will educate, will bring a voice, will carry some kind of impact or at least open up a dialogue.

That's the main reason or the main quest for me as an artist is to really trigger dialogue and open up conversations about issues that I think should be really talked about and important, such as the extraction of natural resources, the housing crisis, the right to shelter, access to proper materials, the lack of vision sometimes from construction industries, but also our government about...

And you, I want you to tell us a little bit about this relationship to trees as kins and this song offering.