What about this exercise from Treasury Board and the government has you worried that reform could actually move in the wrong direction?

Well, yeah.

Thank you, Michael, for having me.

And yes, I am encouraged, uh, on one hand that the government fin- finally appears to be willing to be amending the Access to Information Act.

Uh, as you just pointed out, reform is well overdue.

Uh, our act is, uh, 43 years old.

Um, and this re- review does give us a real opportunity to make real improvements.

Can, can you talk a bit about some of the, the exemptions that are either on the table for reform or the kinds of things you think ought to take place in that regard?