What led you to doing that? What motivated you to do that?

I think like a lot of people who entertain research at, later on in their lives, we have to admit that some of this is me search.

So for me, the catalyst really was a personal experience.

I mean, it was a difficult experience, and I share it in the hopes that it's helpful to people, but I'm also mindful that because it's a difficult experience, yeah, it might activate people, you know? So I share it with the hope that it lands and people understand it.

So the true catalyst for this work was, well, it happened on the 5th of April, 2018 when I received a phone call, and the phone call had a no caller ID, and I answer it, and a woman's voice says to me, "Caroline, are you going on holiday with your husband?" And I just knew.

I just knew instantly that she was having an affair with my husband.

And what was so very strange in that moment, and being a psychologist, someone who's thought they were very self-aware and so forth, what was really strange was that it felt to me as though every cell in my body knew, and yet my brain didn't.

So i- is that something that you would suggest?