That was fantastic, isn't it?

So where, where Cambridge, some of the boys', uh, colleges had gone mixed, as they called it, boys and girls together.

So it was like every odd was stacked against me.

But I went there, and I was interviewed by a man called Mr.

Green, who was from Manchester.

And he was a director of studies for engineering, 'cause I thought, well, engineering, bound to become a fighter pilot if I do that.

So, uh, didn't know anything about engineering, by the way.

Yeah, yeah

Mm.

But that's, that's an entirely different, uh, question.

But the thing is, James, I'm not upset by it.

I am angered by it.

And the reason that I'm angered by it is because every woman listening, any woman who is on social media will have similar said to her, either abusive...

All the other things that he said.

You know, there was some forum that he was on, a rugby league forum, and they were posting pictures of the, the girls, the women who play, and then he was saying, "Oh, English women, they don't care.

Mm.

I don't imagine that's a 50/50 split, is it?

Oh, no. Oh, dear.

Yeah.

If you believe that, honestly.

Uh, anyway, so Richard Tice, a few weeks ago, if you read the Sunday Times, a brilliant journalist, uh, Gabriel Pogrund, found that Tice, through a very complex and deliberate, uh, tax structure with a lot of the companies being offshore, had avoided, which is not illegal, paying £600,000 in tax.

He's the deputy leader of the Reform Party.

And then today they've discovered that this particular company which had paid him all these dividends through the complex tax structure has, um, now...

... it's good.

Excuse me while I have a mini trauma.

A whole paper, like a task force, I ran this task force, which was about maths education, age 5 to 19.

So we did a lot of deep diving with that.

And it showed that, and it's moved on again since then, the last 16 years, that was 2010.

It showed that in primary schools...

The vast majority, I think it was about 96% of teachers, had given up maths at age 16.

So those are sort of, in a lot of them, maybe the unions won't be happy with me saying this, there was a fear of the numbers.

didn't notice a difference of class? Or did it worry

up in space? Yeah,

sending drugs into space.

She's got her second rocket launch in May from Cape Canaveral.

Yeah.

That's amazing.

She's extraordinary.

She's got this company, Bio Orbit.

Yeah, because they just eat you, isn't it? A great white, you might get a nice one.

Yeah,

sending drugs into space.

She's got her second rocket launch in May from Kate Canaveral.

Yeah.

That's amazing.

She's extraordinary.

She's got this company, Bio Orbit.

Yeah, because they just eat you, isn't it? A great white, you might get a nice one.

How do you do it?

Been working with the online retailer JD Williams.

You know, through my life, not just me, but a lot of women in their particular industries and their lives and their communities had to break down the ceilings all the time.

They're breaking the glass ceiling all the time.

And so what that does throughout your life is it doesn't make you weaker, it makes you stronger.

'Cause you go, "Oh, here we go again.

Oh, yeah, I lived through that one.

Stuff happened, didn't it? And your mum in particular was a heroic figure, but it, it can't have been 100% easy for you.

... unless they can change the-

I think, uh, as is often the case, it's about the, a personality and what, uh, Farage has for his supporters, they think he's funny, they think he's the bloke, you know, in the pub and all that.

(laughs) But Starmer is not char-...

You know, he's not a charmer.

And I think for the next election, perhaps he should stand aside.

Someone like Peter Kyle would be my...

Would get my vote.

No, fair enough.

So it was personal?

Well, it wasn't perso- it was, it was a fury after, after lockdown, when all of us had, you know, tried our best in whatever field, uh, we could, and to have seen so many people suffer, and so many people obviously on the front line suffer.

Um, I had an online math school, and we're normally subscription.

So we went free and we, uh, uh, rebated, refunded everyone who paid their subscription, went fee- free for nearly five months to half a million children to try to teach them their maths, you know, when all the schools were fundamentally closed.

Um, and, uh, you know, 'cause we were trying our best, and everyone was working hard in those circumstances.

That anyone could think about profiteering at that time-

It'll never catch on.

(laughs) Yeah, no. Woo! Uh, and, uh, via the Daily Mirror, I had a column, a double-page, uh, feature every Friday.