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Carl Bryan

Carl Bryan

Carl Bryan is a private individual who shared his story on Season 5 of the true crime podcast Betrayal (Glass Podcasts), recounting how a betrayal tore apart the new life he had built after coming out.

Oct 8, 2026

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Promo code BETRAYAL.
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We'd gotten a pounding at the door.
3:48
[door knocking] And I answered right away, and I saw multiple squad cars with the lights on.
3:56
And the officer that I'd spoken to was like, "We need to come in." One of the police officers asked me to sit down, and they explained that Drew was holed up in the bathroom with a knife, and I'm like, "What are you talking about?" I am freaking out from that because I'm, like, inches away from the possibility of somebody dying.
4:22
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He was very short-tempered during that time, just, you know, things that normally is easygoing wasn't easygoing anymore.
32:10
The only thing that I could possibly do was to get a burner phone with 1990s text messaging capabilities and phone calling capabilities.
32:22
And I think that was the first time that the emotions really hit me in that situation.
18:38
It turned out that uncle had just received a disturbing text from an unknown number.
18:44
"Your nephew Carl wishes you would stop being an embarrassment to him and the rest of the family.
18:49
He says you bother him and thinks you're the dumbest person ever.
18:53
His boyfriend Drew hates you, too." My uncle was reading this off to me, and I was angry.
19:00
I was really mad because now you're bringing my uncle into this, who has a mental disability that he has no control over.
19:09
There was some time that needed to be spent for me to be able to explain to him, like, "I'm being harassed right now.
19:16
I hope you know that this is not me and this does not reflect how I see you." I was extremely angry when I heard about that text message.

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He started receiving calls from other tow truck companies, locksmiths, heating and cooling technicians, plumbers.
46:38
He saw it when, for Adam's birthday, they took a trip to Lake Superior.
46:44
Honestly, a whole different world from the rest of Wisconsin.
46:47
This untapped natural beauty that, like, when you're in it, it just feels spiritual where you're there.
46:54
We did a lot of hiking for three days, did a kayak tour, and we were on the beach just looking out on the water, and he was, like, teary-eyed because of just how beautiful the scenery was and how just perfect the trip was.
47:12
And there was just something about it that felt so pure and so, like, I was exactly where I wanted to be.
47:21
And then we made a little, you know, heart in the sand.
47:24
You know, Carl and Adam, 2021, and took pictures of that.
49:27
As a tribute to the Cubs, they named their new dog Wrigley.

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