And actually those retreats now, people were listening in, they're going, okay, what's this retreat? What's going on here? What's happening about all this stuff?

Yeah, I suppose so.

First thing was I had a really nice kind of one of those serendipitous moments where I was passing Middleton Holistic Centre in Middleton, which is a gorgeous little holistic centre with like 20 practitioners working in it, everything from counsellors to chiropathy, reflexology, IET sports massage you know like a huge range of stuff and um There's an amazing woman in there for 40 years running at Mary O'Farrell that everyone in Middleton knows.

And anyway, you could imagine me just green out of college.

And I was like absolutely terrified to get started.

And I just said after a few weeks, I'll just go in and ask her.

So I just walked in.

cosmetics someone told me yeah