It's much more intimate, much more opportunities to form deeper relations with the folks that are there.

Yeah, 100%.

We're small and mighty.

I think we've had a really great community through and through.

When starting this event, I was not a recruiting expert.

I had to be curious and understand and listen and talk to new folks and leaders in the industry and kind of figure out, like, what are those issues? What do people need to do their job better? So we're looking at clarity of what's working, what's not, what do people need, the community.

attending this event, you're going to be there alongside people that are doing the work, just as you are.

What are some of the pillars that we're going to be talking about this year on the stages?