Is it food or culture or you just combine it to like where does that come

from? It's well, I mean, it's it's it's it's both.

I mean, I was so, you know, growing up and you sort of touched upon this.

So, I mean, I'm Italian and Ukrainian and food very much was a way to express yourself.

right? Um, it is how I was connected to my culture.

It is how I, you know, express hospitality and love all of those things.

Um, you know, I bake pies and bring them to people, you know, I make, you know, stuff all the time and, you know, put them in little boxes and try to like, try my best at like Pinteresting life, you know? Um, and, and so, and I, I've spent a lot of time with with agriculture and that sort of thing.

And if we don't even know what a healthy relationship with food is, I think in our mind, maybe not, it's not actually with food, it's like not stressing about food.