was it like having like a whole orchestra behind you?

So I've actually performed with the BPO before.

I won a contest when I was like 17.

And so I got to like perform with them a couple of times.

But this one was just like really special because, well, first of all, it was on my birthday.

So that was kind of like a cool little thing.

And I got to work with Joanne Folletta, which I never got to work with her before.

What else do you have going on?

[laughs]

And I just learned these, like, four chords.

And I, I mean, obviously a little bit more as I went on.

And I, the first song that I, that I started with was Rewind.

And, uh, it was basically the first four chords that I learned, and I wrote it all in, like, one night.

[laughs] I, like, I never had written a song by myself, um, before and never on the guitar.

And I think that was kind of an avenue for, for some new songwriting.

How do you balance that pain with the humor? Was that easy to do? I mean, it, it's, the writing is just spectacular.

What made you want to write that?

Yeah.

So this album, it encompasses actually two different relationships.

One, it starts at the beginning of me ending a first love relationship and kind of dives into this new relationship that wasn't exactly what it, Seemed to be.

And so, I mean, honestly, though, with with albums, when someone else listens, it could be about anything.

Right.

So that's just what I was going through at the time.

now the artwork for uh the new album uh you worked with aaron bobeck and you uh you had like a robo shoot it's funny so he shot my wedding a couple weeks ago and i saw you posted on your instagram story like looking for a robo and he also posted on his instagram story looking for a robo and i'm like he's all right and i kind of put that together but um i guess where did the inspiration come visually for this

Mm-hmm.

Like, so many different things at once.

Like, I also, I did extra-curricular theater as well as, um, the theater in my high school.

So I, um, was balancing the high school musical while also doing my extra-curricular at Ac- Academy of Theater Arts.

And I think, you know, it was hard, like, in school, 'cause not a lot of my friends that, like, didn't do theater, like, maybe didn't fully understand everything that I was doing.

But, like, I had so many friends that, um, were in theater outside of school that, like, we were all trying to do the same thing.

We all loved theater so much, and, like, it was our top priority.

Yeah.