But is this just a case that I personally believe that Harry and Meghan could use this incident to heap pressure on Ravik and the home office to get their taxpayer-funded security?

Well, I think taxpayer-funded armed police, their purpose is not to shoo away photographers.

I think if you really want security to deal with that, then you pay for it yourself, which is of course what Harry and Meghan are doing.

I think the issue as much as perhaps it's being painted as a security issue, it's actually more of a privacy issue and an intrusive, uh, issue.

We know that the British press have signed up to, not rules, but certainly an understanding that we leave Prince Archie and Princess Lilibet alone while they're continuing their education.

They are private citizens, as are, well, arguably the Prince and Princess of Wales's three children.

We also leave them alone and other extended members of the royal family while they're at school.

What do you think, Cameron?

But what do you make of this move over here and how it's all going to play out?

Well, we saw the one paparazzi shot of the private jets on the tarmac at Birmingham Airport.

And we could obviously from there track the flight from Los Angeles.

So we know they're definitely here, right? We have to remember, this isn't the first time that the Sussexes have been here within the last couple of months.

They were back here in July and no one knew that Meghan and the children were in the country.

And yet they managed somehow to sneak into Highgrove.

see the king, see the queen, and actually, as you say, Katie, completely were left alone.

But can you imagine a time as close as next year, which will come around quickly, when we might have both brothers in the same room to honour their mother's legacy?

Do you, do you have an opinion or, or have you heard anything specific that you feel comfortable sharing?

Do you know, I think, uh, to be honest, I think it's a little bit of all of the above, Kinsey.

I mean, the, the, the source close to Harry told me that schooling is certainly a huge part of it.

Harry wants his children to be educated in Britain, which would suggest he at least and the children would stay for the time being and put the kids through the education system.

And Meghan, her As Ever brand is based in California.

At the moment, there's nothing concrete to suggest that she's going to expand it in Europe, although there's lots of rumors that she will.

Which suggests she'll be flying back and forth, but this, you know, talks that she's having with Guy Ritchie to star in the season three of The Gentlemen on Netflix, films in the Cotswolds where we believe they're going to be staying.

Uh, Cameron, does returning to Britain undermine some of the arguments Harry and Meghan made, uh, when they left? Are people sitting back going, "Well, was it really that awful if you're a- if you're already back home?"

Absolutely

... before Andrew was arrested, when Andrew was trying to speak to him, he was so uncomfortable and did not want to be pictured with Andrew, uh, at all.

Uh, so clearly from William's perspective, I think he sees the public perception of that and the public image of that.

Now, the generation above that, King Charles, is, of course, Andrew's brother, as I said.

But also, I think the King will be aware of the late Queen, Queen Elizabeth II's love for Andrew, the, supposedly her favorite son, who clearly did not know, she did not know everything that Andrew was accused of.

But I think maybe in the back of their mind, you know, you, you're gonna have the King, you're gonna have Princess Anne, and you're gonna have Prince Edward being like, "Look, at the end of the day, he's made some terrible judgments, but he's still our brother." So you can see from the King's perspective, in a private setting such as Balmoral, which is n- not publicly owned, remember.

It is the private Windsor property.

You, you, it, Diana's legacy is so enduring, you know, across all the generations, but what questions do you think are left to be answered about her life at this point?

That's very bold of you to say this.

I am wearing a gray suit.

I promise you I'm not a gray [laughs] man in a gray suit.

Uh, I, I think ...

And Harry has such a Uh, a h- a hatred towards certain individuals who work for the royal household that arguably sometimes it blinds and clouds his judgment a little bit, and he has it in his head that they are out to get him, and that everything is aga- i- is against them.

I think probably what happened is that Harry was expecting this security review, which he says he was promised to take place, and that review would be so damning in terms of all these threats against him, this is what Harry's own security team is saying, I'll caveat by saying, that the home office will simply be forced to pay taxpayers money to give him police protection, uh, because there's too many threats against him.

Then they can all be happy families living in the palace.

Mm-hmm.

But no, seriously, Cameron, where do you stand on this idea that it is a faux royal tour, or it is a royal tour, but there was lots of monetised aspects? Because I've noted that she also released some candles that are relevant in some of the topics and descriptions to her two children.

Yeah, the Mother's Day candles, as you say, the descriptions kind of themed on the two children.

I think Lilibet's has some water lilies in there as a scent and Archie's has ginger in there, perhaps a nod to his hairstyle.

But what I think is jarring for the candles in particular is that the descriptions talk about Prince Archie and Princess Lilibet.

Now, I thought during that Sandringham summit that they agreed they would not commercialise their royal Titled so the question is if as it appears that's exactly what they are doing How are they getting away with it and just on the broader point in terms of the royal tour? I think if I've been in a coma for six years and woke up just before this tour started I would have thought they're still working members of the royal family and it's and it's all great.

What is going on? but As you say, Bronte, it is this kind of half-in, half-out royal tour.

They are doing philanthropic engagements on topics which are close to their hearts, alongside these commercial engagements, particularly Meghan, I noted.

old and maybe a little bit thin on the ground.