
Cam Lawson
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Aug 18, 2026
How Structure Creates More Freedom and Creativity With Cam Lawson
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Cam LawsonGUEST
But basically, the, the idea behind it is there are structures in society, right? So let's just take an organization, right? An organization is gonna have structures, systems, frameworks, the way they do things, right? And then underneath that, there are agents or the human element.

Cam LawsonGUEST
And what happens is as we put those structures in, that influences the way that the humans behave, and then as they behave, they reinforce or challenge the structure, right? So then we know, and then we have this cycle, and ideally, we put in frameworks.

Cam LawsonGUEST
And one of the things that I love about specifically from the organizational side, I am not a process, you know, type of individual.

Cam LawsonGUEST
I've always been in, like, the sales side, customer success, so dealing with the human side of the business.

Cam LawsonGUEST
But one of the things that I love about structures and frameworks and processes is what that allows me to do is that allows me to not have to think about that aspect, and I can actually be better at my job of being connecting with other humans.
232 - These Commenters Drive Online Chaos and It Should Matter to Christian School Leaders with Dr. Cam Lawson
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Cam LawsonGUEST
I mean, I think one of the unique things that I saw a lot of times on specifically the website, it was often a username, right? It's not tied to the actual identity of somebody.

Cam LawsonGUEST
Like on Facebook, like somebody says something insane and I can click on their profile and see they live in, you know, Las Vegas, Nevada, and here's their family members and here's who they're married to.
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Mark ZockelHOST
So where would you take this with our in regards to our Christian school leaders and them wanting to come to this podcast to learn and to grow?
Live from the Wonder Wagon with Cam Lawson: How Fractional CROs Drive Business Growth
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Cam LawsonGUEST
So, I mean, as far as actual sponsors, there's Next Level Revenue, which is really what the kind of this fractional CRO work is.

Cam LawsonGUEST
That's the umbrella that it's under, right? And then I've got three clients under that.

