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Cam Lawson

Cam Lawson

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Aug 18, 2026

13:09
Let's talk about you.
13:09
But basically, the, the idea behind it is there are structures in society, right? So let's just take an organization, right? An organization is gonna have structures, systems, frameworks, the way they do things, right? And then underneath that, there are agents or the human element.
13:26
And what happens is as we put those structures in, that influences the way that the humans behave, and then as they behave, they reinforce or challenge the structure, right? So then we know, and then we have this cycle, and ideally, we put in frameworks.
13:41
And one of the things that I love about specifically from the organizational side, I am not a process, you know, type of individual.
13:50
I am very much a human.
13:51
I've always been in, like, the sales side, customer success, so dealing with the human side of the business.
13:57
But one of the things that I love about structures and frameworks and processes is what that allows me to do is that allows me to not have to think about that aspect, and I can actually be better at my job of being connecting with other humans.
16:51
So what is your perspective of it, about that?
11:48
Those are the people.
11:49
Yeah.
11:50
You know, and it really was.
11:52
I mean, I think one of the unique things that I saw a lot of times on specifically the website, it was often a username, right? It's not tied to the actual identity of somebody.
12:03
Now, obviously it is, but it's not very obvious.
12:06
Like on Facebook, like somebody says something insane and I can click on their profile and see they live in, you know, Las Vegas, Nevada, and here's their family members and here's who they're married to.
12:16
It's like, holy cow, this is your personal information.

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19:54
So where would you take this with our in regards to our Christian school leaders and them wanting to come to this podcast to learn and to grow?
1:11
And how many brands are you representing here?
1:15
So, I mean, as far as actual sponsors, there's Next Level Revenue, which is really what the kind of this fractional CRO work is.
1:25
That's the umbrella that it's under, right? And then I've got three clients under that.
1:30
But Byte 7 with the seven critical needs is the primary one that I was with.
1:36
And then Next Level is here with a booth.
1:38
And then Energy just acquired the conference.
1:40
We're going to be kind of running the conference next year.
2:21
That would

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