Cam, we'll start with you.

Oh, okay.

Uh, thank you for having me as well.

Uh, I've actually known of Kartemquin for quite some time, uh, because of Hoop Dreams, uh, the, the documentary film.

Um, I was also a basketball player when I was younger as well, so it was something I was super intrigued with.

Um, and then just aware of some of their other films, uh, you know, throughout the years.

But, uh, in terms of my connection with the Kartemquin, was working with them, um, I was a part of the Diverse Voices in Docs program in 2017.

Cam, why did you think, or, or what have you gained, I should say, as a result of being involved in this particular fellowship?