Can you walk us through that app?

Yes.

Yeah, Mar- the Marriage Ain't for Punks app is one we launched in, uh, actually 2023, I think we launched the, we launched the, uh, we started the company, and then we launched the app.

Uh, I think it was '24.

It may have been.

But, uh, the app is actually a, a companion to everything else that we're doing.

Uh, it's, it's designed to speak to relationships at different levels, whether it's marriage, dating, or single and not in a relationship.

Um, what has being an expert on Married at First Sight taught you about marriage, and is there anything that you take from the show and apply to your own marriage?

oh please let's talk about your wife Wendy the two of you work together as a team what is that like and how do you and Wendy like helping out couples

Oh, yeah.

Well, you know what? It's funny because Wendy and I, we're both second-timers.

We tell people that, you know, openly and honestly.

You know, we made some very stupid mistakes.

Well, we didn't, but, you know, our marriages were mistakes.

The first time around, we got married very dumb and very, very, very young.

What are your thoughts on that? And were there any couples that you were surprised didn't make it?