Wilson News.

Yeah.

So I thought it was that she hasn't filmed yet.

So I think there's conflicting things.

I saw something that said that she hasn't filmed, but she would film with Kyle if she does.

But then Bravas and Cocktails reported that one of their listeners or people wrote into them saying that.

Amanda told them that she has filmed with Kyle but she feels like it's not a good fit for her or natural because it's mostly Kyle and Lindsay's friends and that she doesn't think she'll continue to film

Like we can't we can't continue to do this.

They're talking about it.

I'm saying, I know, but, like, on the show, they have this thing where they're like, "Ashley should've never said what she said about Tia's husband.

That's off limits." I agree.

Things hadn't been outed yet, so Ashley saying, like, being elusive and just being like, "Oh, well, something's coming with her husband" and da da da, and Tia being like, "Why would you say that on stage?" And Ashley said, "I wish I would've never said it.

I just heard the information.

I said it on stage.

I shouldn't have.

Well.

It sucks for Melania.

You know, around the same time Teresa put out a statement, um, which even the statement, I, it, from, to Chelsea's point, like, everything that we have seen and read based off the statement, I feel like Teresa is trying to make...

She's being incredibly cautious and in trying to make, trying to make and say, like, the best things that she can for her daughter.

Yeah.

But, like- You ain't happy.

Yeah.

But I'll let you have it right now.

Yeah.

And if

you're the person with the million dollar chest, then you have to complete missions before the next vote.

And the mission is by yourself.

No one else knows that you have the money and you can't let anyone else know that you have the money and you have to complete these missions and the missions will help you like get through the vote.

Like if you get through all your missions, you could get like three votes in the next vote.

They're all secret votes.

So you don't know who's voting for you.

And they were great about reassuring her that there was no judgment, which was nice.

So that would be great.

I could get behind Nene as a friend of.

And I think she's right.

Like, I don't think that she should come back full time.

I think she likes her life how it is right now.

Her stress level is probably decent at the moment.

But a friend of like her popping in and out, I'm fine with.

No.

Those are my favorite parts.

I had a discussion about this yesterday.

I really like Ultimate Girls Trip, but I would not recommend it for someone who doesn't love housewives.

Because I really appreciate all the nostalgia.

I love some of the clips that they brought back.

Like for this drag show, I loved how they were bringing back clips.

But if I had no knowledge of what those clips were, it would be like, what is going on? Like, what are all these random clips? Because obviously they're not giving us the full context in the story.

And to her core, because it's about her very existence, that she's got to deal with those feelings before they ever have a chance of moving on.

Real

world shit.

She kept saying it wasn't for free because I paid her $10,000.

$10,000 is as close to free as possible to get a divorce from a lawyer.

And I think, Rachel, you can speak to that better than I can.

But from everything that I know, $10,000 is an insane deal.

And the fact that Kelly was like, I paid my other lawyer $250,000.

He's buying you stuff.

Jason-

I was like, Jason don't wanna be there.

Jason is there to support his wife because they've been so awful to her that I feel like he's just, you know, trying to make sure she's okay.

Um, there are [sighs] it's hard for me to say this 'cause I think it's so crazy, but J- like Janet and Jason seem like they're too normal for this show.

And I know Janet wants to be on this show so badly, or on reality TV in general.

But I just, they're, I think they're too normal for this show.

[laughs]

Um, so I thought the reveal was dumb.

And-

I also think that, and maybe you'll be able to speak to this, the time that this was all happening according to them is right after the divorce, where it was very traumatic for Michelle.

There was fighting a lot.

Like, when she ran out and yelled at Jesse because he brought, or Lacey over and she didn't even know about Lacey and whatever.

Do I think there is a good chance that Michelle does not remember everything correctly or even remember it at all because of the timing? Yeah, I just think that when there's a lot happening like that and you're, like, kinda like fighting for your life at that point.

Like, you're like, "Let me just get through this, get to a peaceful place," and...

Not fighting for your, for your life literally, but like-

And so maybe-

Agreed.

She should just be like, "Joellen, I'm done.

I'm over it.

I'm staying with Brian and I'm not calling you a liar.

You might be right, I don't know.

But, like, I wanna keep my family together, so this is what I'm doing.

Can you respect that?" I think Joellen would lay off.

Yeah.

Mm-hmm

... from the beginning and following along with our podcast.

And she's like, "It's so interesting to hear you and Rachel talk about Summer House when I'm watching from Season 1 right now, and the same things still apply." And I'm like, it's, it is interesting 'cause we didn't think that they still applied back then.

Like, she's like, "Amanda has been lazy since she first got on the show." And she was like, "There are so many things that have happened," and I think she's on Season 6 right now.

And, um, for example, their florist for their wedding fell through, and she's like, "It's 100% on Kyle to figure out who's gon- like what's gonna happen with the florist." And she was like, "Wedding planning, it was like mostly Kyle." And like Amanda's complaining and being like, "Kyle, you wanted this, so you do this." Like, it's always been like Kyle has to like pick up for Amanda's laziness.

But even more to your point-

Like, when he was like, "She's not sleeping, she's not sleeping with us," and Nia was like, "Yes, she is," it's way easier for Nia to lean over the bed, 'cause Nia still has to feed her.

Like, she's breastfeeding.... lean over the bed, get the baby, and feed her than Nia have to get up in the middle of the night, walk over to where the nanny is, or the nanny having to come and knock on their door, bring the baby.

Yeah.

And, and, um, like, she's just s- a selfish person.

And, um, in an interview, Jesse talked about how Sierra came to the camp and, like, she had glam done, like, she was ready to, 'cause she's gonna be on the show, and her hair was all done, and they told her like, "Hey, like, we don't, like, we wear headscarves, um, to honor the kids or their family members.

Like, sorry, but, like, you have to cover up your hair." And Jesse was like, "Sierra did not blink.

She covered her hair up in a second after just getting it done for the show, and, like, went straight into, like, camp mode." And I was just like, it's really nice to see, like, that side of their personality since-

I understand.

Like, he was like, "We were..." He was like, "We were on the verge of, like...

W- I was thinking about bankruptcy.

Yeah.

Because I wanna know if Kyle had these thoughts live and just didn't, like, pick up on anything, or if he's picking up on it now because they do film confessionals throughout the season, so I don't know when Kyle's confessionals were filmed, but the FaceTime o- on the boat, very weird vibes.

The, um, one-on-one with Amanda and Sierra, very weird vibes.

The Soft Bar launch when Amanda finds out that- that Sierra's hanging out with West afterwards, strange reaction.

Her not responding to anything from Kyle but then perking up when West says, "Best weekend ever," and said her feelings were hurt.

I- I'm like, does Amanda have a crush on him, and he doesn't know about it yet? Have they h- is there an emotional affair happening currently, and we just don't know about it yet? S- it's something's going on.

Yeah.

And I love Lindsay, and I think that she is gr- excellent for this show.

Yeah.

And we were ...

it was going to be spoiled anyways because so many of the accounts that I follow listened to it, reposted it, whatever.

But I cannot for the life of me understand how pitiful Amanda is choosing to be.

And at this point I shouldn't be shocked because I genuinely feel like she is going to follow whatever script, whatever ...

Like, whatever West says, she is going to march right behind him.

Yep.

You acting on them was your choice, and you chose to act on them over a friendship that has been there for you for a long time.

... too hard

... that don't know Ashley.

So I feel like people who know Ashley from The Bachelorette or Bachelor, sorry, are loving seeing her as, like, a mom and a wife and seeing her and Jared.

Bachelor community loves Jared.

Like, Jared is a fan-

This is his third life probably

...

the ex-wife was like, "We want nothing to do with the Housewives baloney," whatever that is.

Well that, I-

But he loves it and he loves Charles Lee, absolutely loves.

I don't know anyone that doesn't like Charles Lee, to be honest with you.

Loves Charles Lee, loves the new management, loves...

Like he's enjoying it.

He likes being back home, so he's super happy.

... just see- seeing like he seems pretty happy with the team, trying not to text him too much, but he seems okay with everything.

Uh, I have never, or maybe not, not never, but in a very long time, have seen him like happy when things aren't going well.