So what does that look like for you to open up that conversation?

Yeah, I mean, as a way to get listings, I've knocked on expired listings.

So that is something I'm a little more used to, but...

There was a house right behind my house that was in complete disarray.

And I was like, wow, this would be a perfect flip.

I was talking to my buddy Trent, who at the time was a project manager.

And I was like, man, I think we could make some good money if we purchased it.

What happens if something happens and permits don't move through? Like, like, do you feel there's maybe risk on your side as well? Or was it net net, maybe a better move for you?