So once you speak of that a little bit, how we can be people of faith and we don't have to say, yeah, but I, belong to St. John's Church.

Right.

I mean, religion is a human creation, right? And it's a meaning making tool that can be used for good or for ill.

And the church in particular is just a manifestation of how human beings have organized themselves.

So whether or not you belong to a particular church or synagogue or mosque or whatever, well, that is just a tool for community.

I think there's value in community.

It's not the only place you can find community.

okay we'll do this one last question then i want to get on to some really important stuff that you're doing that i just love death so why do we let them get away with picking and choosing which verses we should follow why the ten commandments but not the words from the sermon on the mount