So tell me what made you trade in your corner office for corporate finance, for representing local vets in the unique niche that you occupy within a company that also occupies a unique niche?

Yeah, first, thank you for having me here, Zane, and I appreciate it.

It's a question I actually get quite often.

When you consider what most professionals do in a legal perspective, they oftentimes start in private practice and they move in house.

So I had the opportunity to go directly into house right after law school.

And part of that story is I had a strong mentor even before I entered law school and a lot of coaching about what I should do, what I should practice and the first company I should work for.

So as you noted, I started in-house, worked within the employee benefits perspective, primarily within the decade that I was there.

So walk me through what actually happens step by step the day a company decides to become an ESOP.