It sounded a lot like the reading.

Yeah.

I, I guess that I didn't-- I've never really thought of the reading thing when I was younger as being like a, my first really like disciplined effort at like becoming better at something.

But yeah, I guess it was.

In my mind, it was diving for sure.

As I started, I started diving at eight years old.

My older brother, Tanner, he started doing it.

[laughs]