So what is going on with this funding ecosystem? And is this a stable structure?

So what happens when you get into some of the deeper dives for this, right? Invest in open infrastructure came about literally from a hallway conversation where a number of the individuals that have been pushing this Sisyphean rock up the hill of building community-based, community-governed open infrastructure, those within institutions, those that had done it.

as, you know, separate tool provider plays, funders, users, open organizations, advocates, etc., that their frustration with the way in which this ecosystem was supported, where it felt like there were a handful of funders that were supporting the majority of of the open infrastructure for research or open science infrastructure ecosystem, but also knowing that the reliance on whether it was philanthropic or even some funding from government supports, like as you mentioned from NIH or from National Science Foundation or from national funders outside of the US, that it usually was either smaller in size and not designed to be able to cover funding for the longer term, or very time limited.

Many of these cycles are three years if you're lucky, five years at a max, and then there needs to be additional sort of innovation, diversification, or moving off of that reliance on funding.

Research is heavily supported and it has historically been heavily supported by government.

We're seeing some really significant shifts right now in that underlying assumption.

And that has shaken down to institutions, which have also supported this work, philanthropies that do need to innovate, and there's a whole sea of different leaderships coming in.

What does it look like when one of these infrastructures goes down? What does it look like when a repository goes dark? Can you share an example of when that's happened and how that's affected research or a research community? We're seeing