And then as a relative, like your experience, what could you say to people out there that this really is hitting home, that they have a sibling or somebody else and they're trying to figure a way we can help them best?

Yeah, you know, that's such a struggle for anybody who's going through that.

So, I mean, if you do have a loved one, first of all, I'm sorry you're going through that, and it sucks.

And if that's all you need to hear, that's, you know, stop listening now, because a lot of people just, they need to hear that.

I've had a lot of people giving them a lot of advice.

It sucks.

But the thing about this crazy, you know, this crazy kind of, disease that substance use disorder can be and is, is that it requires a certain amount of deciding that you want support if you're the one going through it.

What's the night going to entail?

And it showed me that they were working, doing something.

Yeah, so I'll leave it there.

And then I'll tell you about the science of it.

So there are a lot of different chemicals that move around in our brains.

And the system is essentially a network of pitchers and catchers, if you'll allow me to use baseball.

And in order to feel happy, certain chemicals, I'm going to use dopamine because that's one of them, but there are other chemicals too.

But certain chemicals, the pitcher has to throw them, the catcher has to catch them.

Yeah, change it, fix