And what are you finding people need to unlearn when it comes to kind of the good girl archetype or the way that we think?

I think that off the back of that, we tend to believe that someone else knows better and that they should then be in charge of our own financial future.

And so it's very easy to kind of sit back and let someone else take the reins in perhaps a relationship, whether it's your family.

And I think that we can tend to put our head in the sand because we haven't been taught about how to grow our wealth, protect our wealth, invest wisely.

And I think that's what we need to unlearn.

We are our own leaders.

We're our own champions and we deserve to put ourselves in the best financial position.

So please just do something.

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[laughs]Really plays into why women struggle with their confidence and it comes back to these inherited scripts, these inherited beliefs that we learn when we're younger and we carry through.

... what is your biggest life lesson so far?

Oh, God.

Uh, there's a lot in that book.

Um, I would say that really consider who is on your team.

Who are your, who are your champions? Who's this, what, what's your scaffolding of support look like? I think that's so critical, right? Like, you want people that really do champion you, that aren't cheering for your compliance.

They want you to, you know, they want you to change, to grow, to evolve.

and I'm like we've got a shared calendar it's all there

yeah yeah exactly right and and I think you know I was on a I was on a I was on a call a few weeks ago with a group of women and one of them said my goodness like I just went I went to see my doctor I kind of hit uh I hit breaking point and she walked into the doctor's office and she's just like oh my god I want to burn my life down and the doctor said you'd be surprised how many women come in and kind of say something similar yeah and that is where people are hitting this you know, level of burnout, a level of exhaustion, a level of just like, I've had enough.

Like this is not working.

The status quo no longer works for me.

And now I want to do a 180 on my life.

The thing with that is that that is really disruptive, right? That is probably not the way that I would suggest to go.

I think what that, you know, the person that was telling this story had done beautifully was go and seek support.

Yeah,